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we have seen that with bill and hillary clinton. and then there are times it's irreparable. >> reporter: still, she is determined, staying at her job and at least for now according to friends continuing to work on her marriage. for "today," kristen welker, are nbc news, washington. >>> up next on "today," the rush for the register. why some people plan to skip that second happening on thanksgiving to intulg in holiday shopping. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. ♪ be the first to get great savings at the petsmart beat the rush sale. save 30% on all petholiday™ by great choice® products and save $6 on purina one® and beneful® dog food. friday through sunday only, at petsmart®. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easie
we have seen that with bill and hillary clinton. and then there are times it's irreparable. >> reporter: still, she is determined, staying at her job and at least for now according to friends continuing to work on her marriage. for "today," kristen welker, are nbc news, washington. >>> up next on "today," the rush for the register. why some people plan to skip that second happening on thanksgiving to intulg in holiday shopping. ♪ we were skipping stones and...
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>>guest: bill clinton did not have huge deficits but he caught government spending as a share of g.d.p. he did a great job cutting capital gains tacks and these guys raising them and cut taxes on the working elderly and he was great, he put in wealth fair reform, reappointed the fed chairman twice, and, in fact, he did such a good job i voted for him twice if you can imagine. >>stuart: no, i can't but that is another story. let's be clear, you are saying, we don't have to go all the way over the fiscal cliff with massive increases for everyone and huge cuts in spending that is not what you are suggesting. you are suggesting the tax rates on the rich go up and that is enough to sour the economy next year. be clear what you are saying. >>guest: that is what i am saying. the job creatures are upper income people the people who decide how much they will employ and where they will employ them. if you raise the tax rates on that, on those people, it makes them less un-- less intuesday -- inenthusiastic. they have the votes so they can do it. but it is wrong, still, and it does not make a dif
>>guest: bill clinton did not have huge deficits but he caught government spending as a share of g.d.p. he did a great job cutting capital gains tacks and these guys raising them and cut taxes on the working elderly and he was great, he put in wealth fair reform, reappointed the fed chairman twice, and, in fact, he did such a good job i voted for him twice if you can imagine. >>stuart: no, i can't but that is another story. let's be clear, you are saying, we don't have to go all the...
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a job in their lives because it's absolutely insane what they're saying you talk about bill clinton well first of all he had inherited the regular economy so just about anybody could be successful going on it was a disaster deal. we had but he had to because i had a very good crash the biggest stock market crash the biggest the highest unemployment rate since the great depression in the reagan economy it was after reagan were awful taxes and i would say as a result of reagan got the tax. so but what will disagree on that but what we can what we will agree on is that it was a very different time twenty years ago america was the world's largest exporter america was the world's largest manufacturer which we still are just by you here and we're going to lose that here very soon to our competitors our competitors are kicking our butts we need to do something differently nobody who has ever created a job in their lives would ever be advocating for raising taxes so while i am going to work you know i've hired probably at least two hundred people in my life seven or i realize that and i've
a job in their lives because it's absolutely insane what they're saying you talk about bill clinton well first of all he had inherited the regular economy so just about anybody could be successful going on it was a disaster deal. we had but he had to because i had a very good crash the biggest stock market crash the biggest the highest unemployment rate since the great depression in the reagan economy it was after reagan were awful taxes and i would say as a result of reagan got the tax. so but...
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. >>> and bono has the web laughing with this impression of former president bill clinton. >> i want to thank bono for stepping away from the microphone, i knew he couldn't rhyme, but i'm so glad he can fall back on adding and subtracting. it might be the one thing all of us can agree on. >> the voice is spot on. bono was speaking at clinton's alma mater georgetown university saying clinton is more of a rock star than he'll ever be. let's go back out to al with a check of your weather. >> that is a darn good imitation. bono, who knew. tell us about this shoe box. >> this is actually operation shoe box. well, this week is collection week and we're going to need all of your guys' help. >> we'll put something on our website. one of our camera guys was just working on this, weren't you, tommy? >> they all get sent out to kids all around the country, all around the world, really, and they get christmas gifts and the knowledge of church and what makes life a real gift. >> you guys are focusing on hurricane sandy too, right? we really appreciate that. let's check your right? >> yeah. >> may
. >>> and bono has the web laughing with this impression of former president bill clinton. >> i want to thank bono for stepping away from the microphone, i knew he couldn't rhyme, but i'm so glad he can fall back on adding and subtracting. it might be the one thing all of us can agree on. >> the voice is spot on. bono was speaking at clinton's alma mater georgetown university saying clinton is more of a rock star than he'll ever be. let's go back out to al with a check of...
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a former congressman doug shown and a pollster for bill clinton and joining us live remote from beautiful west palm beach florida, packdel. and a former pollster for president jimmy carter who is hanging out with the rich and beautiful people. so i'm going to go last, pat, just because of that. >> okay. >> doug, look. there's a lame duck session before the fiscal cliff hits. it's really brief. there's a bunch of holidays. can a grand bargain really be hammered out? >> i hope so. bottom line, we need one. the decline in the stock market last week said that the markets and the financial communities are not going to be tolerant if we don't get a grand market. bottom line, i think the republicans have to cave in on of and be willing to increase revenue, even increase rates, pivot the conversation to entitlement reform and spending cuts, but bottom line the president has them over a barrel. >> john, i think they will kick it down the road. an interim deal that simply post bones all of the elements of the fiscal cliff for three months. and gym baker of two admissions pointed that out. >> that's
a former congressman doug shown and a pollster for bill clinton and joining us live remote from beautiful west palm beach florida, packdel. and a former pollster for president jimmy carter who is hanging out with the rich and beautiful people. so i'm going to go last, pat, just because of that. >> okay. >> doug, look. there's a lame duck session before the fiscal cliff hits. it's really brief. there's a bunch of holidays. can a grand bargain really be hammered out? >> i hope...
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kelley just hired washington power attorney abbey lowe whose clients have included president bill clinton and former presidential candidate john edwards. she also hired judy smith, the head of a pr crisis firm who has represented big names like kobe bryant and michael vick and monica lewinsky. >> when you bring on these type of professionals, it doesn't necessarily mean you've done anything wrong, but it usually means you have been involved in something that's quite interesting. >> reporter: karen post, a branding expert and author of brand turnaround says these latest hires is a big red flag to her. she believes there are more twists and turns to come. >> it's got a cast of characters, a furious surprised wife of the general. it's got a book author. it's got a shirtless fbi agent. i mean it's got all the makings of a great story. >> reporter: post says the kelleys find themselves in the media vortex that could have the power couple cashing in on their instant celebrity. >> this story, i suspect, is going to go on quite some time and i would not be surprised if there was not a book about
kelley just hired washington power attorney abbey lowe whose clients have included president bill clinton and former presidential candidate john edwards. she also hired judy smith, the head of a pr crisis firm who has represented big names like kobe bryant and michael vick and monica lewinsky. >> when you bring on these type of professionals, it doesn't necessarily mean you've done anything wrong, but it usually means you have been involved in something that's quite interesting. >>...
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susan rice is appointing bill clinton as a marriage counselor. she has done nothing. we're in the passenger seat of car driven by 16-year-old that got his driver's lie sense and is texting. that's what i feel like. it call them the keystone cop ks but that would be insulting to them. the media is following the juicy pieces of gossip. we are forgetting about the important issue, benghazi. say it again to piss you off, bob. we spent so much time on the valerie plaem affair. they made in a movie and put it on cover of "vanity fair" and it was a stupid scandal. four people are dead in benghazi and we are talking about pages of e-mails. >> bob: let me ask you a question. because you don't like what she did on benghazi going around to the sunday talk show, name me one thing you know about her that disqualifies her for secretary of state? >> greg: that is enough for me. >> dana: she has had a less than shining career as u.n. ambassador. >> bob: how so. >> dana: she has big shoes to fill. but presidents get to choose who they want and if she is confirmed by the senate i wish
susan rice is appointing bill clinton as a marriage counselor. she has done nothing. we're in the passenger seat of car driven by 16-year-old that got his driver's lie sense and is texting. that's what i feel like. it call them the keystone cop ks but that would be insulting to them. the media is following the juicy pieces of gossip. we are forgetting about the important issue, benghazi. say it again to piss you off, bob. we spent so much time on the valerie plaem affair. they made in a movie...
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bill clinton's liaison with lewinsky, first term. the actual plame leaks, first term. so if the obama team was going to mess up, history suggests, they already did. maybe it's something that has made headlines already, but maybe not. remember, the lewinsky scandal didn't surface until 1998. maybe the obama administration will make its own history and avoid a second-term scandal. but if not, disney world may seem very appealing. you know, it was interesting, in the president's news conference, he said he was well aware of the history of presidential overreach in second terms. that's a little bit of a different subject, but you get the sense that anyone that much aware of presidential history knows that second-term scandals can be a problem and most likely will be really, really careful. wolf? >> john berman, thank you. good history lesson for all of us. remember, you can follow what's
bill clinton's liaison with lewinsky, first term. the actual plame leaks, first term. so if the obama team was going to mess up, history suggests, they already did. maybe it's something that has made headlines already, but maybe not. remember, the lewinsky scandal didn't surface until 1998. maybe the obama administration will make its own history and avoid a second-term scandal. but if not, disney world may seem very appealing. you know, it was interesting, in the president's news conference,...
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i don't like hillary clinton's politics or bill clinton's politics. but hillary clinton was a good secretary of state. >> andrea: why? >> eric: she was tough. >> andrea: on what? >> eric: she didn't back down and she had ideas, thought about things and she did it her way. my point, susan rice won't be hillary clinton. susan rice will be a mouthpiece for president obama and not the american people. >> bob: curious, check this out and see if mccain and graham had such problems did they vote for her for-up? my guess is they probably did. >> greg: the u.n. loves her. the u.n. hated bolton which is why bolton was great. when u.n. loves you, they like someone to roll over. >> eric: they may have voted for her but that was prior to her lying to five different news organizations. >> bob: how can you accuse her of lying? the intelligence committee itself said that it was the same intelligence that the intelligence committee got the day before she testified. >> eric: be specific. >> bob: i will. senior member of the intelligence committee released the following
i don't like hillary clinton's politics or bill clinton's politics. but hillary clinton was a good secretary of state. >> andrea: why? >> eric: she was tough. >> andrea: on what? >> eric: she didn't back down and she had ideas, thought about things and she did it her way. my point, susan rice won't be hillary clinton. susan rice will be a mouthpiece for president obama and not the american people. >> bob: curious, check this out and see if mccain and graham had...
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clinton and monica lewinsky however this one has gone far beyond the borders of a standard sex scandal if the resignation of the cia director hasn't stopped the fallout will it all end. quite hard to tell this may sound like a huge manyfold family drama but it's more serious than that under military law adultery here can be acquired and punishment can be time in prison although general allen will remain the commander in afghanistan defense secretary panetta said he had asked president obama to delay the general's nomination to be the commander of american forces in europe and the supreme allied commander of nato so john allen would be the third again his staying general that well from grace so abruptly and shockingly too many first it was general stanley mcchrystal resigned when a magazine quoted him saying unflattering things about the administration that general petraeus over a woman and now general general john allen that is three of the biggest names in the war in afghanistan it's all right and he's a gunner to go there live in washington thank you. when the mean time of my five in
clinton and monica lewinsky however this one has gone far beyond the borders of a standard sex scandal if the resignation of the cia director hasn't stopped the fallout will it all end. quite hard to tell this may sound like a huge manyfold family drama but it's more serious than that under military law adultery here can be acquired and punishment can be time in prison although general allen will remain the commander in afghanistan defense secretary panetta said he had asked president obama to...
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let's not forget it was under bill clinton where he taught 22 million jobs created we had a higher tax rate. i don't think this idea that higher tax rates stopped economic growth. what stopped economic growth is the parties making a difference. we have to come to an agreement and accept the fact that president obama won the election which included the tax increases for the wealthiest americans. >> tell me what you think is fair if we do compromise and taxes are raised he ran on staying howls holds have been make that go money and above will see taxes go up. is that fair? >> no. that is a level that has to move. they are bringing other revenue sources to the table including capping deductions and closing loopholes. that number the president is digging its heels on are where the margin matters and it will effect the job market. the white house will have to give on that point. >> we don't want to see taxes go up for everyone. that tax rate we may see a compromise. with deductions and closing loopholes. >> what do you think we can expect? >> both are agreeing on the same point. we are goin
let's not forget it was under bill clinton where he taught 22 million jobs created we had a higher tax rate. i don't think this idea that higher tax rates stopped economic growth. what stopped economic growth is the parties making a difference. we have to come to an agreement and accept the fact that president obama won the election which included the tax increases for the wealthiest americans. >> tell me what you think is fair if we do compromise and taxes are raised he ran on staying...
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you talk about bringing bill clinton back in, the master of arithmetic. what did president obama call him? the master of how to count things or whatever. then you have the loser who had some interesting ideas about getting rid of deductions it seems. where do you see the real plus of these two fellows coming in on this deal and helping the president cut a deal? >> chris, the real theme of the piece, my long time colleague nelson cunningham and i wrote, we have to have all hands on deck to solve these issues that are clearly before us. they're solvable but not without a sense of purpose and unity. basically you have president clinton who has the credibility of balancing the budget and then leaving a surplus. that's a pretty strong record to stand on and a lot of knowledge and experience. secondly, you hit it, he is -- he does do arithmetic well. he's also a pretty good salesman, pretty good persuader. i think you have those two great attributes with the former president. and governor romney, he's a problem solver, he's a business person. he knows how to re
you talk about bringing bill clinton back in, the master of arithmetic. what did president obama call him? the master of how to count things or whatever. then you have the loser who had some interesting ideas about getting rid of deductions it seems. where do you see the real plus of these two fellows coming in on this deal and helping the president cut a deal? >> chris, the real theme of the piece, my long time colleague nelson cunningham and i wrote, we have to have all hands on deck to...
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bill clinton almost got a middle east peace deal in the second term. so i do think there's a sense when you look abroad the president has more opportunities to leave a mark. >> john do you think, those that the scandal involving cia director former cia director david petraeus could derail the efforts he's trying to get going here? >> this one won't derail it but it's a very good example of the kind of thing that tends to turn up for season in more in a second term. you know iran-contra for president reagan rather famously president clinton's impeachment was in the second term. so it may not be this one, but, you know there is kind of a coincidence that time consuming scandals do pop up in those last four years. >> it's interesting you bring up legacy. one of the issues with the fiscal cliff is what kind of legacy would john boehner or the president leave behind when they leave office if they can't get a deal done and what about a second term compromising and going your own route. >> terrific point. the big things that have happened in our country's his
bill clinton almost got a middle east peace deal in the second term. so i do think there's a sense when you look abroad the president has more opportunities to leave a mark. >> john do you think, those that the scandal involving cia director former cia director david petraeus could derail the efforts he's trying to get going here? >> this one won't derail it but it's a very good example of the kind of thing that tends to turn up for season in more in a second term. you know...
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we got bill clinton impeached. we're going to impeach this president as well and then john boehner will be president so ha, ha ha. ha ha, ha to you frank. this scandal does not touch barack obama. he didn't know about it. he didn't do it. he had nothing to do with it. eric cantor knew about it. maybe we should impeach eric cantor. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. welcome to the "full court press." this wednesday morning november 14. oh, man. lots going on. congress back in session and trying to deal with the fiscal cliff. so is president obama. all anybody is talking about is all of the latest with the david petraeus sex scandal. think about it. two generals, two famous generals, two top generals, two women. you got politics involved. you got the military involved. you got maybe national security documents involved. i'm telling you, how long before we see the hollywood movie? which is going to be first? the book or the movie or the tv series? who knows. maybe all three. we'll get into that and a w
we got bill clinton impeached. we're going to impeach this president as well and then john boehner will be president so ha, ha ha. ha ha, ha to you frank. this scandal does not touch barack obama. he didn't know about it. he didn't do it. he had nothing to do with it. eric cantor knew about it. maybe we should impeach eric cantor. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. welcome to the "full court press." this wednesday morning november 14. oh, man. lots going on....
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president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so who on the right would be the biggest opponent? would it be a christie or rubio? >> those are certainly two candidates that could come forward in 10 t 2016. marco rubio saying his trip has nothing to do with 2016. nobody other than marco rubio believing that. you have to think about bobby jindal, the governor of louisiana, susanna martinez has gained a lot of interest among republicans lately. particularly after they were hammered with the latino vote in the last election. so there are a lot of republicans who could end up running. there will be some effort in the r
president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so...
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he used to represent president bill clinton, john edwards and jack abramoff. judy smith has been brought in as a crisis manager. she used to work as a crisis manager for monica lewinsky. we don't know if these heavy hitters that have been brought in to represent the family can tell us anything about what's contained in those 20,000 to 30,000 documents. outside the family's home in tampa. >> i will only add to that, that 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents, which is a teeny tiny difference. that's a whole bunch of documents. >>> debbie wasserman schultz will join us to talk about this scandal. >>> and the fiscal cliff. >>> return of the jedi. little boy, look at this. how cute is this? wait till the big reveal. it's awesome. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and th
he used to represent president bill clinton, john edwards and jack abramoff. judy smith has been brought in as a crisis manager. she used to work as a crisis manager for monica lewinsky. we don't know if these heavy hitters that have been brought in to represent the family can tell us anything about what's contained in those 20,000 to 30,000 documents. outside the family's home in tampa. >> i will only add to that, that 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents, which is a teeny tiny...
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said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house officials want to get things done. he told the "des moines register" in an interview he thought was going to be held as an off the record interview, wanted to do something big on immigration. clearing the deck of these investigations as you said and this our aura of scandal is critical to have the power on capitol hill to make tough decisions. >> rudy giuliani said before this election and says it in a kind of joshing way, that he doesn't want a second term, he wants a second chance. i thought that was accurate. he does want a second chance and the country needs for him t
said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house...
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senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas militant. according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a wa
senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas...
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look, bill clinton might do a good job there. nothing against bill clinton, it just seems early this the process, why not allow the secretary of state, for that matter the president to take care of it instead. i think it's premature. maybe later on as we get further down the path, but i'm not sure what the purpose was right there from senator mccain. >> michael, much has been happening behind the scene, these discussions about a cease-fire. so if that piece is reached and reached, you know, later this afternoon, early into tonight, how much credit do you think that the u.s. can claim in all that? the secretary of state is on her way there, the president has made all the overnight phone calls to speak with morsi, to oversee this process. >> well, i think by your description and your reporting that the president has been pretty hands on in this process thus far. and therefore, if it resolves with the cease-fire, i think they're deserving of some credit. the challenge though becomes -- i don't want to presuppose there will be a ceas
look, bill clinton might do a good job there. nothing against bill clinton, it just seems early this the process, why not allow the secretary of state, for that matter the president to take care of it instead. i think it's premature. maybe later on as we get further down the path, but i'm not sure what the purpose was right there from senator mccain. >> michael, much has been happening behind the scene, these discussions about a cease-fire. so if that piece is reached and reached, you...
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clinton, john edwards and jack abramoff. judy smith has also been hired by jill kelley. she's a crisis manager. and you may remember smith from her crisis management representation of mon ica lewinsky. heavy hitters to represent the family as this family is expecting a barrage of media questions in the next days to weeks as this scandal unfolds. carol? >> wow, i'm still getting over that house. that's something else. jason lanning, bay news 9. thank you so much. paula broadwell's biography of general david petraeus is one hot seller. no kidding. it climbed out of the cellar to the 111th spot on the best seller list. nothing like a besex scandal to promote a book, something she did not mention on her book tour. >> when i realized the opportunity i had to tell this message to present this portrait of military leadership, i'm not in love with david petraeus, but he is a great role model, values oriented, speaks the truth to power. >> you think this is the weirdest twist, you would be wrong. yes, there is word this morning of a
clinton, john edwards and jack abramoff. judy smith has also been hired by jill kelley. she's a crisis manager. and you may remember smith from her crisis management representation of mon ica lewinsky. heavy hitters to represent the family as this family is expecting a barrage of media questions in the next days to weeks as this scandal unfolds. carol? >> wow, i'm still getting over that house. that's something else. jason lanning, bay news 9. thank you so much. paula broadwell's...
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. >> we heard bill clinton famously had his office affair with a young intern who really was a child. i mean, his risk was crazy risk. i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central intelligence agency for goodness, sakegoodnessgoodnesssg that you risk even the presidency of the united states of america, historic important significant post. you risk even that for a piece on the side? >> if you're not really thinking it through, yes. >> but is it true that some men, i mean, i speak now knowing, and you know, that i'm a decade clean and sober now, but you know, i'm trying my best to forget what happened before. to throw everything away potentially just for a little nookie. >> it depends. if it's thrown at you and you get the urge and you don't think about it and you go for it, yes, but there are consequences. >> who is it that said power is an aphrodisiac. it's a turn on. >> he's been controlling himself for 38 years. >> i believe that,t too. i absolutely believe that. when he tells his trusted people like colonel mansoor and colonel boylan that this is the first time, i
. >> we heard bill clinton famously had his office affair with a young intern who really was a child. i mean, his risk was crazy risk. i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central intelligence agency for goodness, sakegoodnessgoodnesssg that you risk even the presidency of the united states of america, historic important significant post. you risk even that for a piece on the side? >> if you're not really thinking it through, yes. >> but is it true that some...
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i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill and a supportive president, and democrats and republicans. i don't see any of those ingredients today to do tax reform in 2013, 2014. >> especially ifhe esident going to have a new treasury secretary. itim geithner, this has sort of been his-- tim geithner wanted to be behind tax reform, wanted to be the force behind corporate tax reform. that might speak to tim geithner staying on a little long fer they think they can get something done in the first six months. >> why is anything different now? why is anything different in the second term? >> good point. >> i'll turn the hosting to you. >> mart
i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill...
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martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehner got together. that republicans are going to refuse to go along with any tax increases until, really because they want to see it done slightly different way which we can get into. the president says, that he won't budge either, monica. >> yes. what goes around and comes around and here we are exactly the same spot, martha, as you just said. there are two sacred principle at play for the republicans not raising taxes and cutting spending. focus seems to be because president and democrats do have control over this narrative only thing that seems to be at the conversation here, what we're talking about is, the tax issue, revenue versus rates. but i also think that the republicans really need to focus on cutting spending. that is the other part of this equation that is, just as important if n
martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehner got together. that republicans are going to refuse to go along with any tax increases until, really because they want to see it done slightly different way which we can get into. the president says, that he won't budge either, monica....